the only person might not have been so thrilled to see this interview is joe biden. because they could be rivals for the democratic nomination in 2016. but i think it may have been just exactly what barack obama said. a chance to say thank you. >> and he had called her one of the finest secretaries of state. with that said here, susan, last day, this friday, for secretary clinton. what can't president obama do in his second term without her? we've said it so many times. she's the most traveled, has spent the most miles in the air. the administration also according to what steve croft was pointing out in the interview, saying they had no major foreign policy accomplishments, major ones, that is, that they could hold high was his question in the first four years. will that change for kerry? will that be different in this second term with hillary clinton gone? >> i think there are some openings for the obama administration that weren't there in the first four years. you know, we're out of iraq. we're going to be out of afghanistan, our troops out of afghanistan at the e